tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4503292949532760618.post5425113999257823870..comments2024-03-28T13:39:27.601-07:00Comments on DSHR's Blog: Why Preserve E-Journals? To Preserve The RecordDavid.http://www.blogger.com/profile/14498131502038331594noreply@blogger.comBlogger13125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4503292949532760618.post-56847267791158198732010-08-02T10:26:40.206-07:002010-08-02T10:26:40.206-07:00Thank you for your post; I have been extremely fru...Thank you for your post; I have been extremely frustrated on occasion in my search for certain journal articles that my library no longer stores and can't be tracked down elsewhere online. The preservation of such documents is crucial.Optimum Companieshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11824111268605793647noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4503292949532760618.post-8505145638665669122007-06-30T10:10:00.000-07:002007-06-30T10:10:00.000-07:00Reading comments from funnyman and others it seems...Reading comments from funnyman and others it seems I should clarify the term e-journals. I'm using it to refer to scholarly journals such as <A HREF="http://www.nejm.org" REL="nofollow"><I>New England Journal of Medicine</I></A> or <A HREF="http://extra.shu.ac.uk/emls/emlshome.html" REL="nofollow"><I>Early Modern Literary Studies</I></A>. They used to be published on paper and formed an important part of library collections. Now their content is increasingly published only on the Web. Systems developed for preserving this content, such as the <A HREF="http://www.lockss.org" REL="nofollow">LOCKSS</A> system, could also be used to preserve e-journals in the broader sense, such as blogs, and also other types of content such as e-books.David.https://www.blogger.com/profile/14498131502038331594noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4503292949532760618.post-41567024257800342352007-06-29T21:09:00.000-07:002007-06-29T21:09:00.000-07:00Are E-Journals like e-books? http://wwwfunnyman.bl...Are E-Journals like e-books? http://wwwfunnyman.blogspot.com/The Sports Satiristhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15859285532328834135noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4503292949532760618.post-89380302549363037742007-06-29T06:45:00.000-07:002007-06-29T06:45:00.000-07:00Almost makes you long for the writing on cave wall...Almost makes you long for the writing on cave walls method of recording representations of day to day life. At least the technology there was never in danger of becoming obsolete.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4503292949532760618.post-65687939965825031092007-06-26T08:38:00.000-07:002007-06-26T08:38:00.000-07:00What I wrote could be interpreted as suggesting th...What I wrote could be interpreted as suggesting that GPO was driving the replacement of the paper FDLP system by the electronic FDsys. That is an excessively paranoid view. The agencies that generate government documents are driving the transition, because they are producing more and more on the web and less and less on paper. There are thus fewer and fewer paper documents for GPO to funnel into FDLP.<BR/><BR/>It is also true that one of GPO's goals for FDsys is strong authentication for the documents that they distribute. They plan to use digital signatures for this purpose. This is undoubtedly a good thing, capable of detecting the effects of many of the threats above. But it is important to observe that the signature tells the reader that this is official government information, not necessarily that this is the same official government information that it used to be. Winston Smith was an government official.David.https://www.blogger.com/profile/14498131502038331594noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4503292949532760618.post-70087950471172739412007-06-26T03:14:00.000-07:002007-06-26T03:14:00.000-07:00Dear David,I found your blog only because you made...Dear David,<BR/><BR/>I found your blog only because you made the Blog-of-the-Month list. I'm not working for a library, publisher or the Government. Yet your theme is one that I often wonder about.<BR/><BR/>The danger of rewriting or deleting documents is very grave. I agree that replication in many places is vital, even if natural disaster, war, or electromagnetic pulse were the only threats.<BR/><BR/>I know a professor of Catalan language and literature who found in uncataloged piles of old books and papers a 16th Century page of music which apparently is an unprecedented bit of evidence for language and history in that era. Will such a browse, and such a find, be possible with digital materials?<BR/><BR/>Publishing the personal journal or diary of an Oregon pioneer woman is considered to add a great deal to our understanding of the era, and of the contribution of women to the American story. Will blogs or email letters survive to tell such stories?<BR/><BR/>I no longer have access to some stories and essays I wrote in Word with Windows 95. I wrote them in 1999-2003. I hear that I can pay an unknown sum to have them transdigitized for Windows XP, which is already close to obsolete. I have paper copies of most of them <BR/>but the point is that the individual user may be out of luck on preservation.<BR/><BR/>I believe the concerns you raise are very, very important. Preservation, and findability, need to be explained, understood, and supported.Irene Grummanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11885692112411530420noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4503292949532760618.post-17113363714220130322007-06-23T05:24:00.000-07:002007-06-23T05:24:00.000-07:00e-journals, good or bad, is really the one time in...e-journals, good or bad, is really the one time in history when everyone regardless of age/race/sex/religion/status/location can say to the world "I was here". Thought provoking, humorous, or just a day to day entry of life experience.<BR/><BR/>In the grand scheme of things i wonder if it is possible or necessary to preserve all or a select. I often think when a person dies their blog lives on, and speaks volumes more than a tombstone ever could about "who i was"no morehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12971877084181053374noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4503292949532760618.post-13444380708470660722007-06-22T11:41:00.000-07:002007-06-22T11:41:00.000-07:00Well David,I am not one of the professionals to wh...Well David,<BR/>I am not one of the professionals to whom I think your blog is directed, and rarely subscribe to anything if I can help it. I am lamentably not even particularly computer conversant. And of course I have no notion what may be held to be unsuitable or off-topic.<BR/><BR/>But it has struck me that some of the Search Engines are reputedly in the process of developing means of storing virtually forever virtually everything that goes over the web. The idea of my Emails and blog contents and forum contributions being around into the wee hours of the human species’ possible future, mixed in with the incredible volume of nonsense does not fill me with satisfaction.<BR/><BR/>Of course, I AM a bit of a packrat. I do save a lot of stuff I have no current use for, on the theory that I am simply not yet imaginative enough to devise a use for it, and my libraries in various locations, of many thousands of books each, will continue to gather dust and provide me with greater choices should I ever have an occasion when I run out of interesting reading material. As for all the other things I save, those things really do become very useful, very often.<BR/><BR/>But with regard to internet content, whether for subscriber use or for the rest of us plebian riffraff, won’t the ultimate key be the refinement of the search criteria that ultimately sifts it? There is great interest in making our political frameworks more democratic. Perhaps it is more to the point to make information as democratically available as possible. 95% of my education has been in libraries and used book stores.<BR/><BR/>I realize that there is a certain amount of inevitable obsolescence of storage media and retrieval mechanisms, and that the materials stored in obsolete ways will ultimately be lost if perhaps expensive efforts are not made to transfer it to the more modern storage media. It strikes me that this is a pretty important problem. <BR/><BR/>I think I would also pay attention to the possibility of massive electromagnetic pulse wave attack. I will not detail how easy it would be for that to occur. Information needs to be alternately stored in such a fashion that it will be retrievable even in the event of an aggressive massive electromagnetic event. there are a lot of well-funded fanatics out there.Anthropositorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16177753166841748609noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4503292949532760618.post-25936737560700470592007-06-22T11:24:00.000-07:002007-06-22T11:24:00.000-07:00Did you know The British Museum now has a project ...Did you know The British Museum now has a project for preserving a number of "typical" blogs?<BR/><BR/>Congratulations from North Africa on being a Blog of Note. Interesting Blog.lady macleodhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12830048414719866472noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4503292949532760618.post-6006216918564403202007-06-19T17:56:00.000-07:002007-06-19T17:56:00.000-07:00We must preserve e-literature, be it email or blog...We must preserve e-literature, be it email or blogs or whatever. Imagine all the letters of great thinkers through the ages that have served as an inspiration to people...if that tradition is suddenly taken away, the later generations (who, let's face it, are losing touch with the older stuff as the world changes due to the very technology being discussed) will collapse under the weight of their own ignorance of who they are and where they came from, etc. Soon everything will be electronic, and the danger then will lie in the choice we have to delete or save everything we write or create electronically. My website, at http://thenamelessthing.com/ I see as a kind of testament to fact that I even exist, and if I hadn't made it I wouldn't have anything at all on the web to remember myself by when I turn on the computer. It is a great medium, but we have to respect its throwaway nature and help ourselves to preserve the thoughts we have today so they're here tomorrow.Ian Houghhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16479503962230025837noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4503292949532760618.post-22761319483826418292007-06-17T14:08:00.000-07:002007-06-17T14:08:00.000-07:00In a comment on the post about Post-Cancellation A...In a <A HREF="http://blog.dshr.org/2007/06/why-preserve-e-journals-post.html#comment-5016135111646223386" REL="nofollow">comment</A> on the post about <A HREF="http://blog.dshr.org/2007/06/why-preserve-e-journals-post.html" REL="nofollow">Post-Cancellation Access</A>, Portico describes their approach to preserving the integrity of the record.<BR/><BR/>"Portico provides [subscribers] access to archived content when specific trigger events occur ... Trigger events include:<BR/><BR/>A publisher stops operations; or<BR/><BR/>A publisher ceases to publish a title; or<BR/><BR/>A publisher no longer offers back issues; or<BR/><BR/>Upon catastrophic and sustained failure of a publisher's delivery platform."<BR/><BR/>The <A HREF="http://www.clockss.org/clockss/Home" REL="nofollow">CLOCKSS program</A> uses <I>exactly</I> the same trigger events, the difference is that after the trigger event access to the affected content is provided to <I>everyone</I> by CLOCKSS but only to subscribers by Portico.<BR/><BR/>Why would the <A HREF="http://www.clockss.org/clockss/Home" REL="nofollow">major publishers</A> agree that after certain trigger events their core business asset would be rendered worthless by being made open access? The only plausible explanation is that <I>they believe the probability of a trigger event happening approaches zero</I>. The publishers have figured out that, in the new electronic publishing environment of all-or-nothing access to a comprehensive database of a publisher's content, even the back issues of low-quality journals have a value vastly greater than the cost of keeping them online. If a journal is part of a large publisher's catalog, there is a strong incentive to keep it available. If a journal comes from a small publisher which runs into financial trouble, it will be bought by a large publisher to realise this value.<BR/><BR/>Although the failure of a publisher is a risk to the integrity of the record, it is not a significant risk in the publishing market that the Web has created. If one happens, it will be the context of a much larger social or economic failure in which, publishers agree, restricting access will be counter-productive.David.https://www.blogger.com/profile/14498131502038331594noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4503292949532760618.post-72300488021770117792007-06-17T13:12:00.000-07:002007-06-17T13:12:00.000-07:00Thank you for the correction. The Legislative Bran...Thank you for the correction. The Legislative Branch's regard for the integrity of the record was exemplified by the actions of Senators Graham, Kyl and Brownback (<A HREF="http://www.slate.com/toolbar.aspx?action=print&id=2138750" REL="nofollow">revealed in</A> <A HREF="http://writ.news.findlaw.com/scripts/printer_friendly.pl?page=/dean/20060705.html" REL="nofollow">testimony in the <I>Hamdan</I> case</A>). Thus I don't see that the correction affects my argument much.David.https://www.blogger.com/profile/14498131502038331594noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4503292949532760618.post-55340612008330317272007-06-12T08:08:00.000-07:002007-06-12T08:08:00.000-07:00Correction: The US Government Printing Office is i...Correction: The US Government Printing Office is in the Legislative Branch not the Executive.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com